Baron Davis joins Knuckleheads with Quentin Richardson & Darius Miles | The Players’ Tribune

Baron Davis joins Knuckleheads with Quentin Richardson & Darius Miles | The Players’ Tribune


(“Going Bad” by Meek Mill) – Never stop, never settle. (“Going Bad” continues) When you got to the league, the first person that you ran into that like, bust your ass, that you knew that was like, Man, this shit for real, who was the first person that you ran into and it was like, Man, it’s a level? – I would say, probably
like, Rod Strickland. – [Darius] O.G. Strick. – Man, I ran into Rod Strickland. It was just like, it was like, where this motherfucker coming from, dog? He was coming on a break, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, in and out, in and out, high crossover and I’m like, backing up and he cuffed the ball. And I’m still backing up, thinking like, you know what I mean. I’m backing up from the three. Now I’m under the basket
and he laying it up. – [Quentin] Lay. – Dimes, all that. I would say him, Terrell Brandon. – People forget about T.B. T.B. had a wave. – John Stockton, John Stockton embarrassed me, dog. Like, John Stockton made
me feel like, damn dog. Like, do I know how to play basketball? You know how you have that moment? Where you’re like, shit
like am I sorry, dog? Like, what the fuck Like what the fuck is going on? I had never been taken
out the game so fast. He had ripped me like twice, – Yeah. – And not even like, – Just being heady.
– Blitzed on the ball, it was just like,
– Being heady, smarter than you. – I’m going for the outlet the wrong way, you know what I mean? Boom. Steal. you know what I mean. I get the loose ball, oh, he gone, steal. I’m like, Yo, I’m gonna have
to do something about this. – He see your mistakes. – He was tough, hard nosed, too. Screens, yeah, I remember. – Was he way bigger than
what you thought he was? – Yeah, he was. – He was way bigger than
what I thought he was. – He was a lot taller,
like when you look at him on the court on TV, his
look could be deceiving. It was almost like how Steph Curry looked, like on TV he looked like, aw, man, he just looked like a regular dude. – [Darius] Yeah, right. – But when you stand next to him, you’re like, Yo, this motherfucker, like– – He big. – Built like a athlete. Yeah, John Stockton though, he was like, he was so dope, dog, cause he walk you all the way down to the wing, right. And he’ll walk you to the same spot whether you pressuring him or not, like, he knew what spot
he was gonna get to, he knew what he was gonna, like, he was like fuck once he got to the spot that he was gonna get to. Jason Kidd was dope when
I first got in the league. Iverson, Stephon Marbury, who else Nick Van Exel, Nick
Van Exel was the truth. – Nick the Quick. – Nick Van Exel was the truth, yeah. – [Quentin] He was one
of my favorite dudes. – [Darius] He was one
of my favorites, too. – Then everybody else, Tim Hardaway, I like dudes like that I looked up to, but I think it was like
John Stockton was probably like the dude who, like, humbled me, You know what I’m saying? Real shit. – Yeah, shows you like he was real. – Real, yeah, real shit dog. I couldn’t do nothing with him dude. – We gotta– – I was glad when he was gone, dog. – Yeah, we got an
opportunity to get a chance to play against them, I
think it was two years? – [Quentin] Yup – When we first got in the league Man, they was so, it was
like the end of them, but they was still like good. They did everything right. – Yeah, everything right. – They runnin’ the play,
they knew everything to do. I’m talkin’ bout Malone sitting. He sitting, he ain’t doing no work. He just sitting on folks. – [Group] (agreeing chatter) – It’s frustrating. I mean, that’s the beauty
of basketball though. You can play it at any any age if you good and you fundamentally sound. I think we was fortunate
to be able to catch a lot Like, we caught MJ when he came back. – Man
– You know Like he gave us 56, dog,
you know what I mean? Like when that shit that
they be playing on Instagram yeah that was all us. – [Group] (Laughing) – I know how that whole shit played out. You dig what I’m saying? – That was crazy – That shit was crazy
cause he was like 40. – [Darius] Right. – Wasn’t he like 40? – [Darius] He was something like that. To old to be doing that. – Nah, nah it was like that
shit was just happening. You know what I mean? That
shit was just happening, dog. You know what I mean? Like, he catch you from the beginning like what’s up, Mike, like damn I want to know what kind
of cologne you got on. – [Group] (laughing) – Man, this shit smell good too? You know what I mean. Hit the first three buckets, six points. Now they got 14 points
in the first quarter. Coach calls a time out. Paul Silas said, “Eh, ya’ll
just gonna sit and watch “homeboy over here getting fried.” I was like, damn, I ain’t
even think about it. You know what I’m saying? I couldn’t even get off the fact, like what kind of cologne was he wearing. You know what I mean? I ain’t guarding him or even watching him. Like damn. He don’t even stink. He even smell good. He killing. They was like, you can guard him BD. I remember one play, I
thought I blocked that. I was like get that shit out
of here. I just hear, Smack. I was like, alright I
probably need to shut-up. But that was a fucking, like it was like being in the matrix. You know what I mean? Because it’s like, yo
this shit ain’t real like, you like damn, that’s Jordan out there. – It was, yeah it was dope. – We’re in the game like fanning out. Trynna guard the dude and it’s like 35 38 40 42 – [Quentin] I literally remember when we played them at home game, you know how you know all of the different people that work for the team. – Yeah – Well we knew the one buddy that used to take the pictures at the Staples’ Center. With this dude, I’m like yo, yo make sure you catch some
shots of me and Mike today. Ya feel me? Like, look I need that. Like, look. Keep that between you and me, but you make sure you go out of your way to catch some shots. Like, I don’t care. I’ll be standing, I’ll make
sure I stand next to him a lot. You know what I’m saying? Catch some shots. – Believe that. – Like that was crazy. Like, yo we get to hoop against Mike when we thought we missed it. You know what I’m saying? Like, we got blessed with some moments. – And he still was that cold though. – He was cold. – He was that cold. – Dog, he was cold. I remember playing
against him at Jordan camp And I don’t know if we
was playing one-on-one or five-on-five. I know every time I was
guarding him and he got the ball and we was going to seven. He hit seven in a row. – [Quentin] Right, in a row. – And when he wasn’t moving. You know what I mean? It was like he was just catching the ball – On that spot – He had the coldest fast twitch reaction like perfect shot. Like, you couldn’t even get to that shit. That shit was crazy. – [Darius] Then he fade. – And you look up and you like what, and he talking shit to you. – [Quentin] Talking the craziest. The craziest – Then he laughing at you and shit. Okay it’s like that. – But saying the most The most ridiculous swagged out stuff ever Like what? Like, you say something crazy to him He like, come on now, you can I can stop that like, huh. You can stop that. I know 30 teams that pay you the most money you can get right now. And you like, come on dog,
how you gonna say that to me We was just fooling. Like what you talking about? Hit you with a bar like you
heard what he just said? You like if that was
even remotely true boy you’d be maxed out in the NBA right now. People don’t even understand how much of a way that whole time was. Going to Jordan’s camp in Santa Barbara. And all the top like Lebron
and them came through there Amar’e, Chris Paul, everybody before when they was in high
school, college, like. We was going through there like, psh. We went through that. Then when we got to the Clippers we for sure going. That’s when you started coming
– Yep. – I remember us driving on
the four oh five coming back coming back and forth
– Man, come on now – and seeing each other after like we would go back and forth
– Yep at night and it’s like– – That’s when it was– – It was live – You, know everybody
was running to the fad. You know what I mean? – [Quentin] Thank you! Not everybody just worked out. – Well, nah, and then right now you got all the shoe companies,
everybody got a cap. You know what I mean? – Yeah, yeah, it’s so segregated – I got my top 100, I got my top Like we ain’t even like
500 people that good. You know what I mean? It used to be like
– We used to be like – The top dogs is coming. You know like, so-and-so going to be there Oh, sign me up
– We like look – I don’t care what kind of suit I wear – [Quentin] Santa Barbara about
to be cracking that night. – Man all smoke. – [Darius] I made sure
I signed up every year – [Baron] Man, but ya’ll
was like the young dudes who came in and was
like, we going everywhere we whoopin’ everybody’s ass. – [Group] (laughing) – We hoopin’ 365 days Ya’ll used to go hard
at the celebrity games. – [Quentin] We was thirsty, bro. – Ya’ll super! Ya’ll was the first dudes
putting up like 40, 60 at celebrity games. Dude’s like yo, what are they on? Like, they was just out there housing, fans going crazy
– We was happy to be here. – All that shit. – We in the layup line putting
on a dunk contest before. We like look, this is our chance like, boy think about
when we was first at Zo’s When we first came to
Zo’s that was literally, That event right there,
the first one in 2000 that was when Vince came off, Vince came off the dunk contest. I just remember we pulling
up to the Mayfield Hotel – Hold on, hold on before you explain this I don’t remember the first of those. – He missed it because
he had the chickenpox. He was there, but he was in the room. Shout out Aleah, Will – [Group] (laughing) – Quincy, Sherry, Rodney – Why we talking about the first time? We can’t talk about the second time? – They was rubbing him down with oatmeal. And calamine lotion I’m coming back to the room, You know me, I’m nineteen. I’m coming back to the room like fuck We was with (gibberish) I’m like, I’m going crazy. – You sure did. – [Quentin] He missed it. That was like I’m telling you. – [Group] (laughing) But when we get there, I’m looking like it was everybody from T-mac to Vince to BD, Larry Hughes, Zo You had KG, you had Tawn, you had That first night, when we got to kick it We went out, I’m like bro I’m in a limo with Allen Iverson, and
this man sitting here talking to me like he know me – Yeah – [Quentin] Calling me my name. I’m like, everybody was showing love. It was like dude, this was my first. After the draft, and
going and doing our stuff That was the first NBA event, so it was so like What this is the league? – It was lit, dog. – What! – But it was also like a brotherhood. That’s when it was like
OG’s in the league. – [Quentin] Real talk, real talk. – So you had to like pay your dues and You know what I mean? Dudes would sock you in the chest for getting out of line. Not out of disrespect but just because they had already been through it. You know what I mean? – [Quentin] Young boys respect. – And then Magic, Magic stay doing all that stuff
– Yeah, yeah They was hard on us but they would like Used to always let us party. You know what I mean? And they would make sure we did our work and all that other stuff. – For like for us, when we came in like even as the young boys that were thirsty we went to anybody that asked us. Charity game, we was there. From GP, to Pat, to Magic to Zo And I’m talking about,
when we say we was there When they say we was there, you know how the OG’s, they not really by Like ya’ll wasn’t getting up going to the kids clinics in the morning cause ya’ll done hung out partying. We the ones, they were like, ya’ll go ahead and go to that. So we showing up to everything. – That’s how I got chickenpox. – We eating peanut butter jelly with a baseball bat with the kids. We in the camps.
– Chickenpox all in there with the kids. – We doing drills. That’s how he got chickenpox. – One of them badass
kids gave me chickenpox. – [Quentin] But we all up in the camps – Know they supposed to be at home. – Fact, that’s a fact. – So they knew that like– – The kid with the
chickenpox, can’t miss that! Mommy out there getting him dressed with gloves and calamine lotion like My baby gonna meet the miles, shit. Fuck the chickenpox and all. Get your ass. – [Group] (laughing) – [Darius] Take that picture. – Smile. – Boy you feeling sorry for them like, Damn what’s wrong with
little homie and shit. He looking like he don’t got no energy – [Group] (laughing) – [Baron] I got the chickenpox, cuz – And he was buzzed, bro. I’m like what’s wrong with him? You gotta understand. We
get through the whole week. We’s living. We was staying in Zo’s crib. You know what I’m saying? We up there and we can’t
believe what’s going on. Zo’s got like a Coca-Cola/Sprite machine with him on the cover. – That’s sick. – Bro, we hitting the thing like you don’t gotta put no money in there. We like, bruh this is a movie, for real. – Yeah for real. – Like that was something we saw a movie. – Nothing I ever seen. – You ain’t never been in nobody crib they for real got an
authentic real pop machine. – Zo was like a mafia dude. He was like a Miami mafia player. He used to come through with the walkers. You ain’t see Zo till like once or twice and then at the game. – [Quentin] Time out, Time out. And this is the thing like, I love OG, I love you to death, but Bruh, he will make you
mad shaking your hand. That man will try and break your hand. I’m not, I’m not, listen. Me and D Wright talk
about it all the time. It’s been a few times where alright now I got to just Imma bow you or pound you. You are not about to take my hand and have me really mad at you
for about five minutes, bruh. Clearly it’s not intentional or nothing, but you can tell he was raised under that give a stern handshake. Like, bruh, you take it way to far, bruh. That man too strong. – [Baron] You gotta learn
how to bend that elbow. Give in. Give him a flimsy hand. When he’s shaking your shit hard, make that motherfucker flimsy. You ain’t about to break my bones, dog. – You went to Crossroads. – [Baron] Yeah. – What made you make that decision? I want you to start from like what made the decision.
– Yeah, yeah it was almost like the decision was made for me. You know coming up I was on the East Side, so I
was going to East Side school. But my homeboy got killed. My homeboy was in sixth
grade, I was in fifth grade. When he went to seventh grade, he got shot and killed at the bus stop. So my grandmother was always like, man she was scared. You know what I mean? Cause you gotta get on the bus. You know what I mean? And when you get to seventh grade, that’s when you really Elementary school,
you’re like gang banging, but you’re not like,
you’re just mimicking shit you see in the environment. But seventh grade is when
you really gotta start, you gotta pick a lane. You know what I mean? – [Darius] Pick a side. – Yeah, and try and
figure out how to survive more so than anything. But if you any type of real dude, or a leader or somebody
who will stand out, You already know what’s happening. You know? They gonna press you. And so, my grandmother I don’t think she wanted that for me. My AAU coach at the time he was like this kid funny. You know what I mean? Every time I take him places, you know what I mean, he always cracking jokes,
making people feel good. He would do good in an
environment like this. He work for K-Swiss. They sponsor four teams. Three catholic schools and Crossroads. The Crossroads’ point
guard was like five six, black kid from Inglewood. And the Crossroads’ coach
was from South Central who went to Freemont. His auntie was a school nurse who was like my grandma’s homegirl, like they used to talk about it. So it was just so many connections. – They was like we need
to get him up out of here. – Yeah, it was like yo,
get him up out of here. You know what I mean? The crazy thing, when I
went to tour at Crossroads I was like, hell no I ain’t coming here they ain’t even got no basketball court. Nah, they don’t got a playground. Yo, my elementary school
is bigger than this school. Like, I’m going backwards, dog. They ain’t got no gym. They was like, let me take you to the gym. They take me to the gym and
the ceiling was about this big and I’m like (laughing) word? So I was like, nah, I’m not going here. And my grandma was like,
oh yeah, you’re going here. And that’s how I got to Crossroads. It was just like my AAU coach, the high school coach, my grandma. So it wasn’t like I was recruited. You know what I mean? It was just like, yo this
kid needs an opportunity. You know what I mean? Well, I just say it was God. You know what I’m saying? Cause for us, you know how it is. We dream ourselves into these positions. You know what I mean? We wish ourselves into these positions. And it’s almost like if you think about our game
and we’re collecting coins. Every time we do good, stay
away from the bullshit, you know something happens. You know what I mean? And then that’s how we get to this spot. Especially you know,
Chicago, he’s Saint Louis. You know what I mean? Come on, dog, it’s like
how did that happen. So, I just think it was the grace of God and just the goodness of people seeing– – [Quentin] Yeah, like
our people around us. Like you said, your
grandmother, the aunties, the people we connected with
is not only doing for you, praying for you and doing
all that different stuff that we don’t know nothing about cause we run around there wilin’ – But you know what’s right and wrong. You know what I mean. – Factual – So you know where to take it to. You know what I mean. Like especially in Chicago Where ya’ll grew up. You know what I mean. You got so many guys that
are so talented, right. So many guys that are so talented that come from where we come from, right. That could be in the same position but they took it to far. They wasn’t necessarily smart. – Some could’ve been further
in a better position than us. Would say more talented than some of us. Could’ve been better than us. but like you said, they went to far. – Let me ask you this. When you started making a
name for yourself at Crossroad and you’re a big deal. Were the people where you’re
from giving you a hard time. Like oh man, you ain’t going to the school that around here in the hood, but you go over there
and you just killing. – No, you know why cause I tried to transfer and go
to the school in the hood. And then the coach told me, he was like “Yo, you’re gonna have to be
the third string point guard.” And I said, “Yo behind who? These two.” So I was cool. And then because Crossroads
was where it was, we wasn’t playing against nobody. You know what I mean. So I was short. I was five three in ninth grade. Five five in tenth grade,
five eight in eleventh grade. And that’s when I kind of turned the corner. You know what I mean. And by the time my senior year, dudes was like, yo what’s up dog. And I’m like, it’s me fool BD. And they like, no way. Cause they always remember
me as the smallest kid. And then all of a sudden, I had shoulders, I was dunking on people. They was like, dog, that
can’t be the same dude. I’ll tell you a funny story. Roy Williams was in my house recruiting me and he recruited Paul Pierce. And I played on Paul Pierce’s AAU team. And he was like, yeah man when I went out there, I remember recruiting Paul and he
played on this AAU team and they had all these young guards. And I was like, yeah, I was on that team. And he was like no you wasn’t. I was like, yes I was. He was like, I was always intrigued by this little handicapped point guard. He was small and I think they just put him out but he was like holding his own. – Giving him some playing time. – Yeah! I was like nah, dog, that was me. I had just broke my ankle, and I was a week out of my cast. And that was me out there
playing a week out of my cast cause I was like yo I gotta get recruited. You know what I mean. I’m at Crossroads. So then he was like, there’s no way that was you. And I was
like, coach, I swear to God if you have video, or if anybody got video that was me. You know what I mean? So I was that small. So even Roy Williams
and coaches didn’t know I was always on that circuit,
I was just a little dog. – That’s crazy man. For me, you know what I’m saying? You one of the, as far as the whole L.A. All of the kickers, ya’ll
got a stupid amount of dudes that done came up under you. You kind of like the godfather. It sounds funny for you
to say the godfather, like we owe him now. You know what I’m saying? You like, nah, they calling
me OG, they calling him OG. You the OG – They call me Unc. They starting to call me Unc. I’m like damn, that’s fucked up – But for real, you’re
one of the dudes who especially a city as
big as L.A. to put out as many dudes as you all put out. You’re a dude that really can almost say you connect and touch
and know all of the dudes in some way or another. Like you know, I be round here. I know a lot of the dudes too, but that’s how I know that
everybody look at you like you L.A. unified, you drew league, you really one of the
dudes that’s the fabric, that’s in it still always been one of the first dudes. You know what I’m saying? You’re a gatekeeper You know what I’m saying? You from one generation to the next. You can connect and bring all different generations together. You’re one of them dudes. How does that feel to
have that type of reach and that type of impact on everybody? – Well you know It’s just a blessing. You know what I mean? Just humbled. I think at some point when
we was coming up, right It wasn’t a lot of L.A.
dudes in the league, right? – [Quentin] It wasn’t. – There was hardly any
– And ya’ll was normally soft – And we was known as soft and it was like damn dog. Like no, you know what I mean? I’m not having that. You know what I’m saying? It even goes back to my decision to not go to Duke, you know what I mean, but to go to UCLA. Cause my whole thing is like, if I go to Duke and I go rock with Coach K. I’m about to be one of the
best basketball players that ever played a game. I already knew that, right. Come on dude. Coach K., one of the best coaches that was like aww, I need that. But then it was also like, I’m also from the East Side and so it’s hard to leave knowing that it’s so much at stake. You know what I mean? Going back to your point. I need to put on. You know what I mean? These young dudes that’s coming up, they need to know that
it’s cool to stay home. You know what I mean? That’s why I chose to stay at UCLA. Cause I was like it’s
a wave of point guards. If I go to Duke, and I go do this thing, I ain’t even gonna be tapped in like I need to be tapped in. You know what I’m saying? It wasn’t no dudes in the NBA. You know what I mean? So I was like, yo I gotta stay here, I gotta make a way. So when I got to the league, all my little homies was in college. So I rocked with them. I took them on a private plane. We’d go to New York
and hoop in the Rucker. Take them on a private plane. We’d go to commercial shoots. I need them to see what the lifestyle was. Go work out with Harden and all them dudes when they was in high school. You know what I mean? They needed to play against me because somebody had did that, like Magic did that for
me and Pooh Richardson all those dudes. Derek Martin, all those dudes
did that for me at UCLA. So I wanted to do it for L.A. You know? And then at the highest
point in my career I think, when I had all the light, that’s when I was like yo I need to create something
that lives outside of myself that we can all be connected to because it’s just bigger
than me, it’s bigger than us. And that’s when I was like,
we’re gonna create L.A. unified And then from that point, our whole mission is we all equal. You know what I mean? And we’re just gonna shine a light on our OG homies, you know what I mean. It’s 150 of them, you know what I mean. A lot of them played in the league. But it’s important for us
to keep their legacy alive. Tap into the young dudes, so
they keep our legacy alive. And that’s how we create that cycle. – Where you got your mean
streak, your competitive edge? Cause you used to you accepted the challenge
no matter who it was. Where’d you get that from? – I think I got it from being an underdog, you know what I mean. I just never really
liked to floss, you know. And being a dude who
was always the underdog. Like, alright this dude ranked over me. Alright this dude better than me. Alright this dude better than me. Alright this dude better than me. That’s where it came from, so low-key, I used to be so frustrated because I come with a lot of stress to the game. You know what I’m saying? I come with a lot of shit. I got stuff going on at home in L.A. I live in Charlotte. You know what I mean? I got problems. And I got everybody else’s problems. So I’m bringing all of
that to the game, dog. And that was what I played with. – [Darius] That was how you released it. – Yeah, that was my release. That’s like the place where I
got to release all my stress. I wasn’t afraid, you know what I mean. I didn’t have to survive. – You was confident. – Yeah, I was confident,
you know what I mean. – I think that’s something
we all relate to. That’s part of your upbringing. Like you said, having to be on the bus knowing your boy got shot and knowing how the streets can be. When you get out here, it’s
like, you know what I’m saying And you walking around like
you got certain disposition that came with your environment. And alright, you go to
the park and you hoop. You might ball on a dude, he might get, you know what I’m saying, he too calm, I’m about to
push him down or something. So now I gotta learn
how to not just be nice. I gotta learn how to
stand up for myself too. – Protect myself, dog. – And then alright, go from
standing up for yourself to now I have to have this
disposition when I go out there. You know what I’m saying? I gotta come out there like I’m nice and I’m with whatever you with. And boy act like or Imma show you. You know what I’m saying? That’s where it comes from. And now when you get on the court, it’s like I’m coming with my same L.A. My same Chicago His same east, what we went through. This is what got me here. – And you think I’m soft, dog. – [Quentin] Yeah. – Homeboy, you think I’m soft? You think I’m soft? Where is this coming from? You know what I mean. Alright, can we, let’s play basketball? You ain’t gonna beat me at basketball. Now, you think because I’m from L.A. You think I’m soft, dog! Alright, now where we taking this to. And now you know what I’m saying? – I’m not gonna lie. That was the wrap. That was the wrap. – [Baron] Dog, that
used to just piss me off because that was like, man come on dog. You think I’m, like. So, I’m better than you. – You go to camps. You go to Nike, Adidas, or whatever and you’re coming up. When we get to camps,
we’re headed out there It’s like alright this is from our aspect. Outside looking in not knowing
that we headed to camp. I’m like, well ya’ll
dudes got crazy handles, they can’t shoot, you
know what I’m saying? You know what I’m saying? L.A. dudes soft. Whatever they can do, they soft. You know what I’m saying? – [Baron] All you gotta do is bump them. All you gotta do is push them. – Hit them, knock them down
– Yep. – And you already know, we think we the meanest, toughest, nastiest dudes cause we from Chicago. We from the murder
capital, blah, blah, blah. We got all the ignorant stats about how many people get shot. All of this like we gritty, grimy. We from the cold. – Ya’ll wanna, yeah! Ya’ll wanna, yeah! – [Quentin] Most of our dudes got muscles and we physical and we ready and we welcome the confrontation. That’s what we welcome. What, what, and we from Chicago. And we’re gonna wear it on our chest, say it, all of that. We’re wearing it like a badge. – Ya’ll them camps yo, Oh my God – They don’t even have that no more. – You got the L.A. homies,
you got the Compton homies so finally you got everybody from L.A. You got Compton, and then everybody knew
like Compton, Compton You know what I mean. But then everybody else was like, oh you from L.A. – [Darius] You soft – But all the homies like, Huh! And you got the Detroit homies, and they got a certain type of style. And they grimy. And then you got the Baltimore dudes. Oh my God! You talking about grimy,
dog, you know what I mean – They thought they was the
most illest people ever. – Then the Chicago dudes,
Oh my goodness, dog. Then you got the Texas
boys, you know what I mean. – Atlanta boys and Florida boys – Yeah, you got the Atlanta boys. Atlanta boys was more cool
though. Atlanta boys were more family oriented, good
dudes, you know what I mean. They had a little bit more. They weren’t like grimy. Them motherfucking Texas dudes, Oh man! They used to come like One dude came half his
hair braided back there. – Florida dudes was wild too though. Florida boys was wild too boy
– Florida boys hung with themselves though They stayed isolated, them Florida boys – Hey I remember we was at Adidas. You, D, and all them, DK
Deezy, they was deep, boy. They was deep. And they got into some static
with somebody’s account. They got into static with some
New York dudes, real talk. – Dog, we use to eat them cats up. When we got to camp, it was like oh you think we soft. Aw dog, we was turning the camp up. Me, Tashan – [Quentin] Yeah, Tay was
there when I was going through. He was my class. Tay was a boy, he was definitely a boy. – You’ll look at Tashan and you’d be like man, he’s soft. Alright – Throughout my whole career, Tashan and Kirilenko was like two of my roughest match-ups period. Just because they linked and the way I played, it
was like the polar opposite. I used to hate playing against them two. – [Darius] Me two, I
used to bust your ass. – [Quentin] (laughing) – What you thought about draft night? You wanted to get drafted by anybody or– – I was cold Lakers, dog. – Or you was cool with Charlotte? – I wanted to go to the Lakers – You wanted to go the Lakers. – Hell yeah. – What was that scenario? I don’t remember the scenario. – It was Vancouver had
the number two pick. And Vancouver was going to
trade the number two pick, but Steve Francis was going
to be the number two pick. I was trying to get to number two, so the Lakers would trade at two. That was the only scenario. But I think Vancouver was
asking for too much or what not. But I didn’t want to go to Charlotte. I’m happy I did, but I didn’t
want to go to Charlotte. But I’m happy I did cause all my teammates was like wolves, you know what I mean. I liked playing with them dudes. We had a nice crew, we worked hard. Everybody was underrated
and had stuff to prove. And it was older, you know what I mean. So it was just like being a young dude growing up with all your OG’s and shit. Because it was like no
young dudes on the team. – Word. I’ll be telling people You know how it is. You’re an older dude, that did your thing been in the prime, so you know how it is for mugs like, how soon you forget. Like, boy, throwing one
of them, B. Diddy’s, like throw back tape like boy. You talking about explosive,
banging on whoever I be telling people, you know I had to guard
you some of the times. Like, problem – Why you guarding me though? – Because you too big
for the little guards. You too big for the little guards. – You used to bully
the other point guards. – Ya’ll look, I am not that big – Nah, nah bruh yes you were. – I was no bigger than your point guard. – Bruh, yes you were. – Who was your point guard?
– It didn’t matter. – Your point guard was, was bigger than me – Jerry McGinnis
– He was bigger than me – Jerry McGinnis wasn’t bigger than you. – [Quentin] Height wise,
height wise but not stature – He was bigger than me. That dude was six four. – [Quentin] Yeah, height
wise but not stature. – Alright who was the one dude, right. On the Clippers when ya’ll was playing, and I was like, yo this
nigger is the coldest dude, why don’t he play in the game. But when he get in the
game, he like trash. – Nah, nah we ain’t have that. We had the killers. – We had one dude, that was cold and it was like man, he
just ain’t getting no PT. – Who was that? – Earl Boykins. – [Baron] Oh yeah, Earl
Boykins used to get off. – [Quentin] That’s what I’m saying, we ain’t got no duds. We was too loaded. – Who was ya’ll center? – [Interviewers] Okandi – Then we had Sean Rooks back in the mud. – Eh yo, remember played us in Charlotte. Was you on the team when uh, rest in peace Sean Rooks, that was my dog. – That’s my OG yeah. – Was you on the team when ya’ll played us when Darrin Compman was
on my team in Charlotte? Remember me and Toushay was whooping at each other that game. – I remember that. – Was ya’ll on that team? – Yeah, yeah. – Alright, so– – Cause we got there that same year, yeah – Did we beat ya’ll? – Nah, we came back and won. It was my second year. – I thought I got a steal. – [Baron] Yeah, ya’ll was getting off. Yeah, me and Toushay, like he was home. – Right – And I was just like fuck it. I know people at home are
watching on channel 13, I’m about to turn up. But the funniest shit happened. I remember Sean Rooks, rest in peace. He was in the post and I guess he turned around and he
elbowed Darrin Cummings. You don’t remember this? – [Quentin] Eh, D.C. weak, boy – He elbowed Darrin Cummings. I was on the bench crying dude. I was on the bench crying. You know D.C.that’s big bro. – They don’t play nothing. – He the first dude in the league got fired on me and I felt
like I was gonna miss a day So you know, that’s big bro,
I always fuck with him, right So Sean Rooks (laughing) elbowed him So he comes down the bench. So he gets mad. Dog, he go over there and get checked in And he go fix his shit up. He walks right back to the score but before he walked to the score, well Sean Rooks comes over like damn D.C. you know
alright, alright my bad. – [Quentin] Right, cool shit. – And he said, “Nah.” He said, “Nah, bro. No, uh-uh. “Watch while I get my shit fixed.” Now he got his bandaid on. He walked right to the score table. Ya’ll don’t remember this shit. – [Quentin] Nah, I don’t remember that. – Sean Rooks catch the ball at the elbow. Remember, cause ya’ll was killing us. Sean Rooks was hitting them elbow shots. – I remember we was killing it. That’s why I was like
did we win that game. – Ya’ll didn’t beat us though. I don’t think ya’ll beat us. – Yeah, I remember you started killing. I remember you started killing. – D.C. checked in right. And he was guarding Sean Rooks. So, Sean Rooks gets the ball at the elbow, and D.C. like this. Like what you gonna do. Now you got it. And Sean Rooks knew if he shot the ball, D.C. was gonna fire on him. And he said blouw right in his face. That was the funniest shit I’ve ever seen. The funniest shit I’ve
ever seen in the NBA. The league is real dog. The league is real. Like, he was not lying, dog. He was not lying, like retaliation. Back there it was like yeah come on. – [Quentin] You can do that back then. – [Darius] Yeah you can do that. – You gonna be like what. I remember, dude’s used to get mad when I dunked on them
be wanting to square up. What’s happening man,
we can go at halftime. In some of those arenas,
you gotta go into the side. Remember the old guard,
you gotta walk in together. – Listen, that’s why I be laughing when I see these brouhahas and such. They be having that,
like man come on, dog. It’s so many dudes,
just the way they play. Just thinking about it bruh, and I’m not talking about just big men. It used to be guards like Vernon Maxwell. Like man you say something to him – [Baron] Oh yeah, you better be quiet. – Bruh, I’m talking about man, like stackhouse like say something, like bruh you bout to get, like for real. – It was respect though – And then it’s like them
the type of dudes to, you ain’t necessarily gotta
be saying nothing to them. Some dudes didn’t like
that we did this all, and we were probably like, man hold up they was gonna come through like boom, like trying to screen
you and hit you in lane, and it’s like
– They used to be mad at us. Some dudes show love but – It ain’t like that dog. – Nah, you gotta bring
that same energy back. – Hey, ya’ll was out there flossin. Ya’ll was out there losing, having fun, crossing people up, throwing lines. Hey, ya’ll was making
losing look fun, dog. I was like, damn. I wanna go over there
and lose with them fools. They over there cracking. – We had all the energy in the world. – I’m over here playing basic ball, dog. I need to go rock with them, shit. – We had all the fucking
energy in the world. – That was one thing. – That shit was so funny
dude. Ya’ll used to be like. Getting smacked – [Group] (laughing) – We was losing man, we
wasn’t even blowing out. – Hey, nah, but ya’ll was so ya’ll was good though. – [Darius] We was competitive in the mud. – Nah, ya’ll was good, but it was like ya’ll was winning so it didn’t even matter it didn’t even matter
if ya’ll won or loss. Ya’ll came, ya’ll put on
a show, ya’ll was young. And ya’ll was earning
respect, you know what I mean. – It was crazy. – Everybody respected ya’ll And everybody respected ya’ll – And that’s what we were It’s crazy but think about it. We just went from not
playing, it was like man look when we getting out here, we gotta do something to make our. It was like everybody was at
the starting line just waiting. Everybody like false start,
ready to just takeoff. You had six dudes, five
dudes in year one or two, and three of us all in year one. So it’s like, man we thirsty. – Man, ya’ll was good though. Ya’ll was good. – And that’s why I was like. Even when it was losing,
because a lot of times– – The only reason ya’ll was losing was cause ya’ll was so young. – That’s what I’m saying. – Ya’ll energy and everything – [Quentin] Was crazy. – Yeah, but it was just like ya’ll didn’t, ya’ll didn’t really have you know outside of L.
Owen and Yahn making play, ya’ll didn’t really have
that veteran play maker. Or somebody that can
just settle ya’ll down. If ya’ll would’ve had one dude– – Let me tell you, it was progress cause before we got there the L.A. Clippers won 17 games out of 82. Before we got there When we got there, we got five dudes that’s not even 21 and older. We can’t even buy liquor
or nothing like that, we playing all the minutes. We win 31 games in a grown man league. – Nah ya’ll was killing. – And then the next year we win 39. We two games out the playoffs. So the progress would’ve came and we had money to go and buy to get two time players
– yeah, they didn’t know what they were doing – They wouldn’t even
get no big time players. They had money to go
and get a Tracy McGrady or anybody to come play
with us and be like – And everybody wanted to play with ya’ll. Ya’ll was– – We had carved out a
little Clipper nation. It was over here cause you know they was doing their three-peat
at the time with the Lakers so we was just way over here. – Now, ya’ll was a fun team to watch. – Word. – We know the Lakers gonna
win the championship. – [Quentin] And we was
in the streets though, and that was the thing – But ya’ll was a culture
– And we went to all of the high school games. We
was at all the college games – Ya’ll built a culture,
you know what I mean – [Quentin] Word. – Ya’ll built a culture,
you know what I mean? Like ya’ll just as much a
part of this L.A. unified shit as anything because when
ya’ll played for the Clippers ya’ll was tapping in too. – [Quentin] Word. – D. Wright, you know what I mean. Ya’ll gonna see D. Wright, Trev, all here. – [Quentin] This dude
came from Westchester. Did you know that?
– Nah, I didn’t know that. – So we’ll leave practice sometimes, go to their practice. Be hooping with them, rocking with them. B. Brown and all of them. They like man, ya’ll should do. We go to game, we like
what ya’ll be doing. I said look, man, ya’ll
should do our stuff. Rep us in the game. That literally started with them, that was their thing. And we started it just trying to rep them. And then we never said
nothing and then it’s like, the legend grows cause
you don’t say what it is. We like, don’t say nothing cause we wanna get on the video game. The one where you start raising you hand. We like, we gonna get on the video game. And that was only our biggest thing. – That’s fire. – That’s literally where it came from – That’s a way. – That was their thing. – That was crazy. – That was their thing. – That’s crazy. – And it was so dope
that they never came for, like that’s our stuff. It was just like all love.
Yeah, and they always felt like when we was doing it, we was
repping them in the first place and then it just took it off. So it was like, you know what I’m saying? – They used to get mad at us– – But ya’ll was top ten, ya’ll
was going to their games. You know what mean? Ya’ll was like there. Ya’ll was at games. Ya’ll was like in the culture. Ya’ll was on Fairfax. Ya’ll was pulling up, foxiest malls getting your hair cut, all that. So you know reports in Charlotte. I’m hearing all kind
of stuff in Charlotte. Like, aw man I got get
out there, they raw. They tapped in. – Straight up. – And they hooping and killing. – When you was coming up, who did you pattern your game after? Who did you see, you was like man I want to be like that right there. – Like everybody, Everybody Everybody I thought was dope. You know what I mean? I love MJ, I love Magic,
but I love John Stockton. You know what I mean? I love Jason Kidd. I love that Gary Payton I love that he was a dog. I wouldn’t want to talk shit, but I just love how he used to, he’s a dog, his attitude, his whole bark and all that was because. You know, ahhh. He used to get me fired up. And then I used to love Sam Cassell– – [Darius] Two-point geezer. – And I used to watch these dudes, and I used to just go crazy. In high school, when I was coming up I used to always watch
the dudes in high school. You remember, Ronald Curry? – [Quentin] That was my class. – You know, Ronald Curry use
to have the Virginia cross. Mark Crochet from Baltimore
had the high Baltimore cross. Steve Francis had the D.C. snatch and the A on the hands. Nah, I used to travel. When I was in high school, I used to hit the road, dog. I need to go see what these
dudes is out here doing. Sometimes I just pop
in on somebody’s city, and go mess with the homie, eh. Pull up on Mark Crochet in Baltimore. Pull up on Steve Francis in D.C. You feel what I’m saying? Start hooping with them, shit like that. It was like the dude’s that was around me that were inspiring. You know like A. I., you know what I mean? – Word.
– A. I. was another one. Marbury was a dude, I really liked Marbury’s game. But it was like, I liked A. I. like how he could dominate the game. You know what I mean? But Jason Kidd would be
the guy, I would say, was the dude, secretly
like you idolize most. You know what I mean? – Word. – California dude, I wanted to go to Cal. He was a scientist. You know what I mean. Jason Kidd is great
because he was a scientist. He understood some shit
that you didn’t understand. You know what I mean. He would be writing his own script and his own plays in the game. And obviously you don’t
ever give nothing away. So you have to be tuned in – To what he’s doing – Man, you know what I mean? He orchestrates – He moving
– He was unbelievable – Pieces on the board
without even touching it – All day. – With his mind. He’s moving, just dribbling. – Ain’t even talking to you. And the way he be
talking to his teammates. He be like, Nah (inaudible muttering). And yo, I be trying to
understand that shit. Trying to decode what he said. He cold. – He is one of my favorites too. Right now, the top five point guards in the league, right now. Who would be your top five? – [Baron] That’s so hard. – [Darius] I don’t think so, but– – It’s hard to point guard? – [Darius] Huh?
– It’s hard to point guard. – No. – Alright, so westbrook’s point guard. – Absolutely. That’s my favorite player in the NBA. – Steph Curry – Okay – Kyrie – Facts – Kemba Walker – Facts – Yikes, Kemba Walker, homeboy. – I’m waiting. – Huh? – I know who, I know who it should be. – Am I missing somebody, and I’m about to say some dumb shit? – Go ahead. – And I’m about to miss somebody? – You’re definitely missing somebody. – I know I’m missing Damon Lillard. – Boom, I was waiting on Lilly pad. I was waiting on Lilly pad. – Who would be number six though? – People said John Wall
before he got hurt. – Yeah, yeah and then after that? Ain’t nobody really like. – It’s just a toss-up, it varies. – Yeah that’s right, ya’ll satisfied, yeah Kembe Walker – But you brought up Harden. What you think of this foolishness he is putting on display? – I was on a podcast, and they was asking me, I
think it was on the radio, and they was like, yo could
you guard Harden in your prime? And was like yeah, hell yeah. Because that’s what we say,
you feel what I’m saying. But, yo that kid got some shit. Yikes. I don’t think nobody can guard, I think he can play in any era. You know what I mean? I think
he can score in any era. – [Quentin] Clearly. – I remember in high school,
when he was in high school. And I went back and I was
playing pick-up with Dart. You know Dart? – Mhhm. – And we was playing at
Westchester at night. And this kid was like yo, I got him. I was like man, who are you? Yo, this dude was locking me up, I’m not bullshitting, dog. The dude was playing like great deep I couldn’t make a shot, dog. I couldn’t make a shot. I was like yo, Dart, who is this kid? I want to play, I want him to guard me. Yo, every time we come to
the gym, and I hoop, dog I want you to guard me every
time we’re gonna go at it. I was like, yo this kid
is gonna be special, yo. Because he was a guard and he was smart. I think now that people
see how much he’s scores, you gotta think about how
he came into the league. You know what I mean? He was kind of like the glue guy. You know what I mean? – Facilitating – And that was hard to replace. Yeah okay you had some
good dudes come after him, like the Reggie Jacksons
and dudes like that. But it was like, they
couldn’t replace the fact that that dude was a good basketball player. And he kind of played defensive there. You know what I mean?
He did a lot of defense. – He came out of college, leading college in scoring. So you know, he was definitely a scorer. It’s just that when he got to OKC, he had to play a role. And then Houston kind of
opened that door back up. – [Baron] Nah, he bounced back up. – Now he on the turn. Better in the 90’s or now? So haircuts, were they better in the 90’s or they better now? – Shit, they was fucked up in the 90’s, and they kind of fucked
up now, I would say. – Lots of little nappy-haired
kids running around. At least in the 90’s, they were shape-ups with like tight boxes. – Ay, dog, I can’t even say nothing cause my hair cut in the 90’s, I was hella square and then I had a Jheri curl
like two years ago (laughing). – [Quentin] That was ridiculous, bro – I told my homeboy, I told my barber Chuck Taylor, I said, yo I know Dr. Dre about
to make this NWA movie, it was two years before. I was like man, I gotta
get back in my essence. I gotta reclaim L.A. I ain’t never had a Jheri curl. I grew up as a kid watching these dudes have Jheri curls and shit. So Imma grow me a Jheri curl. I’m about to get all the way (laughing) I’m bout to make this
Jheri curl famous though. – [Darius] That was priceless, bruh. – Yeah, I used to do crazy shit. When I played with the Nicks, I had hurt my knee, so I couldn’t really go anywhere. – Bored – Bored as hell dog So I cut a big ass bald right here – Had a bundini? Had the bundini going on, bruh? – Nah, that shit was funny as hell. I was walking around New
York like that and shit. I’d be at dinner, I forgot I did that shit and I’d take my shit off (laughing) And they’d be like, yo what’s up. And I’d be like, yo my bad,
I was just bullshitting. – We got better than 90’s or now. Snoop? – Of course, 90’s Snoop dog was classic – [Quentin] But Snoop’s like timeless. He’s pretty cold. – I think Snoop now is more well-rounded. You know what I mean? I want to hear everything
he’s talking about. It’s not just the rap, but it’s like what he’s speaking about. You know like the entertainer, I’m more entertained by him. The 90’s Snoop, I was
more like charged up. Now, I’m more like entertained. I want to hear more from him. He’s doing his job, You know, like, one of
the main celebrities. – Better in the 90’s. Rap music now or rap music in the 90’s? – I think better rappers in the 90’s. Funner rap music now. Better rappers in the 90’s Better rappers and like dope rap shit. More like dope, classic shit in the 90’s. But now the shit is just like It’s just like fun. You know what I mean? – It’s lit – Yeah, it’s lit That’s all it is. It’s a birthday. Everything is a birthday party. Everything’s lit. You know what I mean? It ain’t even making the cakes no more. You know what I mean? Back in the day, you had to make the cake. All that. Press it up. You know it was hard. It was hard in the 90’s. Got it too easy. – [Quentin] Better in the 90’s or now. Player’s dress codes. Player’s intro gear. Like what we see in your L.A. young boy, Russ Westbrook. Mr. Fashion King, Mr. Why Not. He come with the thunder. You got Lebron. Is it better now or
when you had MJ and them coming with the suits and all of that? Which vibe you feeling? – You know I’m feeling this vibe. You know eh, it’s not. It’s just like, at least dude’s got style. Back then dudes had the
eight, the ten button suits. You feel what I’m saying? You could stick two, three
motherfuckers in one suit. And then everybody had the same walker. You know what I mean? – The Donald Pliner shoes The Donald Pliner shoes. – Everybody was either in an R and B group or on a rap basketball team. You feel what I’m saying? If you didn’t have a
basketball jersey (laughing) – [Quentin] You had the
Montel Jordan outfit on. – Ay, dog, what? You had them walkers. That two-piece with them eight buttons. You had to get one. You had to get one. – That was your uniform when
you first got drafted, bruh. You had to get that
and the Donald Pliners. – Ya’ll get some walkers. – [Baron] Ay, you used to
kill them huh (laughing). And the big jerseys, you used
to have to get (laughing) – Come down right past the waist – I used to have one with the drawstring. – Back then, we used to
get the custom sweat suits – Nah, I ain’t never get it. You talking about my buddy
Andy out here in L.A. Ay, he be sitting in the lobby (laughing) – Faroo, Faroo’s part of that – Faroo pull up with the whole store a whole rack, a whole rack. – [Quentin] You get off the
elevator, go in your room, you see a big, the whole
store sitting there and you be like, uh-huh
homeboy in the building – Faroo gets that– – Faroo see Detroit, he got all the furs. – Buddy, buddy (laughing) – He walk in somebody’s room, you be like Faroo what you doing in here? – This boy got Sean Johns,
they probably everything – Everything! You be like Faroo gets hots
as fuck with these jeans, don’t worry, I’ll come back. Motherfucker cut them shits. He got some Rocawear jean shorts now. – You know how we used
to land in New York, go to like the state park,
Rocawear, all that stuff. And go get all the gear – Man, we used to get stuff – Man, come back from the East coast with crazy stuff, crazy – Varsity – They ain’t like that no more, huh? – Nah – When we came out, we got
the opportunity to do movies We got the opportunity to do TV shows. We got the opportunity to do commercials, all that stuff. And now since you out the league, you dibbling and dabbling in
the entertainment industry. I just want you to touch a
light on the stuff you got– – WTF – Not really just going on, but how you being so
creative in your mind. Coming up with all of this stuff and just showing how outside of basketball you’ve done turnt into this whole– – Yep, I appreciate that, shit. One, I wanted to do it and I take directing classes, acting classes every class I could take
when I was in New York. I took advantage of it. When I’m here, I take advantage of it. You know, I always wanted
to make movies, right. I always wanted to tell stories. It just kind of dawned on me
when I was doing my research, like Ernie Barnes, when I was coming up he was a hero of mine because he stepped away and he was like yo my
greatest thing is my art. I can paint these dudes
better than I can play You know what I mean? And when you look at his art, his art changed in time. So for me, it was like, basketball I’m going to be as
great as I possibly can. You know what I mean. I’m probably not going
to be Magic Johnson. But at the same time, I’m so into every time I connect,
cause we like brothers. You know what I mean? So every time we connect,
everybody got a story. So I’m looking at the story, right. And I’m appreciating
the story as it unfolds. And I just think for me, it’s
just like being able to say we’re great storytellers. We have a great repertoire of film and shit like that because we spend time
sharing ideas, sharing movies sharing books, so that’s why
I wanted to get into film because I felt like that could be an even
greater voice for me. And something to show other athletes that you can follow these steps or you can take the steps you want to be able to at least tell your story or a story that makes sense to you. So I got this show What the Fuck, WTF B.D. tune in, you feel me. – Word, word, but like how did you Speaking on that, how did
you come up with that? Like, just doing that on your own and just taking it around and shopping it or did you, you know what I’m saying. Did you develop it with somebody? Was it your own idea? Was it like a group thing with your crew? – Yeah, I was sitting
on it for a long time and it kept being
different iterations of it. And people passed on it or you get close and you’re
like damn it’s about to go. And people are like,
yeah that’s a good idea but nobody really wanted
to take the chance. And Fullscreen stepped up. They took the chance. And then I was like, yo, alright We’re gonna freak it. And we only had 13
minutes to play with it, so it had to be tight. But I was just out there like, yo, I know I can do this. I watch Curb your Enthusiasm like my life is funny. I want to make something
that athletes can relate to. Hood dudes can relate to and just like the normal person that’s just going through something. That’s got something. So that’s when I was like, yo I need to create something for myself. You know what I mean? Instead of for other people. So, now I’m just starting
to really get into acting and directing. Right now Imma start just
making people laugh and shit. And then at some point,
I’ll turn the corner and start making people cry. You know what I mean. But right now we need
to get this jokes out. You know what I mean? – [Darius] And, you
putting executive producer under your jacket. – Yeah I’m trying. – You’re getting your
credentials under your jacket. – Yeah, I’m trying. – That’s amazing. It was funny but I’m like– – I need ya’ll in my next movie. The movie I’m directing, Domino. We’re going to be directing
that at the end of the summer. Ya’ll gonna be in it? You
know how to play dominoes? – Yes – You know, I’ll be Denzel in any movie. – You know how to play dominoes? – Yeah I know how to play dominoes. – Alright ya’ll say that,
alright. You got the dominoes. – Like we say, man, we
definitely appreciate the OG. One of the real talk gatekeepers. You know what I’m saying. B.D. you know what I’m saying. We came through this. This is his space. His creative space. We out here in his building
and he welcomed us in. Keep it real with us, man. We definitely appreciate it. – Love, bro. This set
was fucking dope as shit. Man, love ya’ll, man. – Appreciate it bro.
– Ya’ll my brothers for life. – You know what I’m saying? That’s the knuckleheads, bruh. (“Going Bad” by Meek Mill)